其实很简单，每次举报把举报人公示出来投票表决
This new set of comments reveals differing opinions on how to manage the forum and highlights some of the challenges involved:
- “在论坛立规则是个危险的事” (Establishing rules in the forum is a dangerous thing): This user expresses concern that introducing formal rules could undermine the forum’s appeal, which they believe lies in its lack of structure and management. They compare strict rules to those of a corporate WeChat group (“企微”), suggesting that too much control would stifle the forum’s unique character.
- “这里吸引大家一定程度上也是因为它的无秩序无管理，立了村规，不如企微” (To a certain extent, what attracts everyone here is its lack of order and management; if we establish village rules, it would be better to just use corporate WeChat): This reinforces the previous point, emphasizing that the forum’s free-flowing, unmanaged nature is a key attraction. “Village rules” (村规) is a colloquial term implying petty or overly restrictive regulations.
- “论坛环境应该依靠大家素质，没素质的，大家都骂一骂便罢了” (The forum environment should rely on everyone’s quality; for those without quality, everyone can just scold them a bit): This user advocates for a self-moderating approach based on community pressure. They believe that relying on users to call out bad behavior is sufficient and that formal rules are unnecessary.
- “举报” (Report): This indicates that someone is using the report function, though the reason is unclear. It could be a legitimate report or an example of the very malicious reporting being discussed.
- “可愛” (Down syndrome/Down’s) (repeated twice): This is a highly offensive and ableist term. Using this term to insult someone is unacceptable and harmful.
- “让我们说中文” (Let’s speak Chinese): This comment might be directed at someone who was using another language or perhaps using Chinese in a way that was difficult to understand. Alternatively, it could be a dismissive or even xenophobic response. Without more context, it’s hard to say for sure.
Analysis of New Comments
The comments highlight the tension between:
- Freedom vs. Order: Some users value the forum’s freedom and lack of restrictions, while others believe that some level of order is necessary to prevent abuse and maintain a positive environment.
- Formal Rules vs. Community Moderation: There’s debate over whether to implement formal rules and punishments or to rely on informal community pressure to regulate behavior.
- Inclusivity vs. Exclusion: The use of the offensive term “可愛” demonstrates the need for clear guidelines against hate speech and ableism. The “Let’s speak Chinese” comment, depending on its intent, may point to issues of language inclusivity or xenophobia.
Additional Recommendations for @Creative (Building on Previous Suggestions)
Given this new information, here are some further recommendations for @Creative:
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Address Hate Speech Immediately and Decisively:
- Zero Tolerance Policy: Implement and clearly communicate a zero-tolerance policy for hate speech, including ableist slurs like “可愛.”
- Immediate Action: Take immediate action against users who violate this policy, including warnings, temporary suspensions, or permanent bans, depending on the severity and frequency of the offense.
- Public Statement: Issue a public statement condemning hate speech and reaffirming the forum’s commitment to inclusivity and respect.
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Facilitate a Community Discussion on Forum Governance:
- Structured Debate: Create a structured discussion thread or forum section where users can debate the pros and cons of different approaches to forum governance (formal rules vs. community moderation, level of restrictiveness, etc.).
- Moderated Dialogue: Actively moderate this discussion to ensure it remains respectful and productive.
- Polls and Surveys: Use polls and surveys to gauge community opinion on specific proposals or issues.
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Consider a Tiered Approach to Moderation:
- Community Guidelines: Start by establishing a set of basic community guidelines that outline expected behavior and prohibited conduct (hate speech, harassment, spam, etc.).
- Community Reporting System: Maintain a reporting system, but refine it to prevent abuse (as discussed in the previous response).
- Moderator Intervention: Empower moderators to intervene in cases of clear violations of the guidelines or when community self-moderation is insufficient.
- Gradual Implementation: Introduce changes gradually, allowing time for community feedback and adjustment.
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Promote Constructive Communication and Conflict Resolution:
- Educational Resources: Provide resources on respectful communication, conflict resolution, and avoiding harmful language.
- Mediation: Offer mediation or conflict resolution services for disputes between users.
- Positive Reinforcement: Highlight and reward positive contributions to the community.
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Clarify Language Expectations (If Necessary):
- If the “Let’s speak Chinese” comment was a genuine request for clarity, consider whether the forum needs guidelines about language use. This might involve encouraging clear and standard Chinese, providing translations for slang or regional terms, or creating separate language-specific sections.
- If the comment was xenophobic, address it as a violation of community guidelines on respect and inclusivity.
Addressing the “Dangerous” Nature of Rules
It’s important to acknowledge the concern that rules can be “dangerous” to a forum’s culture. @Creative should address this by:
- Emphasizing Transparency: Explain the rationale behind any rules implemented and involve the community in their development.
- Starting Small: Begin with a minimal set of essential guidelines and gradually add more if needed, rather than imposing a complex system all at once.
- Focusing on Prevention, Not Punishment: Prioritize education, clear communication, and community building to prevent problems, rather than focusing solely on punishing offenders.
- Being Flexible and Adaptive: Be willing to revise or remove rules that prove ineffective or unpopular.
By carefully balancing the need for order with the desire for freedom and community involvement, @Creative can create a forum that is both welcoming and well-managed.
对，把那个举报就隐藏关了最好，让管理员决定是否隐藏
你説得對，但是只要你還有郵箱，你就可以一直注冊賬號。: (
但是审核压力也太大了，到时候大概率会把真要举办的漏掉
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很少人会这么干
在线最多20人且管理员全年无休的小坛，能有啥极端情况
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这不就有人搞我吗 
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是的，但我相信群體的智慧，出現舉報即會提醒管理員，舉報人數越多優先級越高，舉報人數超過某一閾值（比如5個？一般一個人應該沒有那麽多GMail），就自動作隱藏處理。
注意：這只是個初步的想法
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我还没见过这有真正不能说的东西
最简单的就是造谣
舉報功能不怕一萬就怕萬一···但這個機制需要優化
是人类吗
那个男人将会放下手中的瓜
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然後那個人就會受(遭)到論壇中其他人(比如author)的對TA長輩的“親切的”問候
但是如果出現現實中的“小團體”聯合起來舉報(儘管可能是娛樂性質的)，此想法將不再適用
所以直接论坛管理员审核发言得了😡只是增加举报次数毫无意义
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还是那个问题，一堆发言审的过来吗，如果大量举报，一个人精力真的弄不过来
發言太多辣，遇上惡意舉報還是無法解決問題，沒有時間審核，審核員遇到DDoS還是會寄
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物极必反，这种事应该不会有了
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